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Recent cases
I've always wondered how it is possible to sell and acquire other
people's opinions about your business - can you have such a right? But perhaps
that is a question for another day.
Jason Neyers
Professor of Law
Faculty of Law
Western University
Law Building Rm 26
e. jneyers@uwo.ca
t. 519.661.2111 (x88435)
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On Behalf Of Robert Stevens
Sent: August 27, 2025 11:28 AM
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As Lord Macnaughton said in IRC v Muller, "[a
man] may vindicate his exclusive right to [goodwill] if necessary by process of
law." [1901] AC 217, 223. This is done through the tort of passing off. If
you buy a business with its goodwill, you acquire the goodwill, and can then
sue anyone if they pass off their business as yours.
With goodwill, we have an identifiable transferable
right. So, it is patrimonial property.
The problem with crypto is that it isn't like
goodwill. Where is the right (or privilege, or power, or immunity) associated
with it? The problem is starkly obvious in the conflict of laws: which specific
right is it being claimed is being governed by which law?
Could the UK legislature abolish crypto, as it could
abolish the (domestic) right to goodwill? What does the fact that it couldn't
tell us?
If crypto does attract a right (or privilege, or
power, or immunity) then it is patrimonial property, even if judges say it
isn't. Conversely, if it doesn't, then it isn't patrimonial property however
loudly or frequently judges say it is.
R
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Goodwill
has always seemed to me to provide a potentially valuable analogy, at least in
the sphere of the conflict of laws (see IRC v Muller [1901] AC 217; Dickinson,
ch 5 in Fox and Green (eds), Cryptocurrencies in Public and Private
Law (OUP, 2019), [5.106]ff; Tulip Trading Ltd v Bitcoin Association
For BSV & Ors [2022] EWHC 667 (Ch), [144]-[145]).
Although
difficult to define in Hohfeldian terms, it attracts legal protection and
represents more than a mere factual expectation of future benefit.
Best
wishes
Andrew
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Counsel
fees are an odd example. Although its often said they constituted a
gentleman s obligation , the reality is more complex than that. Certainly by
the 20th century, payment was a professional obligation for a
solicitor and non-payment of fees was regarded as professional misconduct.
I m not
sufficiently familiar with the history to say for certain that this was always
the case, but as things presently stand fees still have important juristic
effects. An unwillingness to assume liability for fees by a solicitor means the
barrister is not subject to the cab rank rule (Code of Conduct, rC30.7.a). A
failure to pay fees is a recognised ground for returning instructions
unilaterally (rC26.5), and a solicitor who fails to pay can be listed on the
Bar Council s List of Defaulting Solicitors (which in turn is a further group
disapplying the cab rank rule from any instructions they offer: gC91).
In
Scotland, I believe that a system similar to the old English one still obtains,
and (although some on the list will know better than I) advocates will
generally refuse instructions from solicitors whom the Faculty has listed as
defaulting on payment.
So the
payment of fees, even if not directly enforceable, had/has important juristic
consequences for both parties.
Matthew
Hoyle
Barrister
One
Essex Court
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On D'Aloia, Timothy Chan
and I have a comment in the LMCLQ. On the subject of 'property', this is what
we say in reply:
"Three cases supposedly mandate the recognition of a third
category of personal property absent any Hohfeldian legal relationship
whatsoever provided there is a clear and well founded expectation. First,
unenforceable contractual rights in Ex parte Huggins; In re Huggins. Secondly,
barrister s outstanding fees, which under the old regime created no debt at
all, in Gwinnutt v George. However, although neither creditor in Ex parte
Huggins or Gwinnutt v George could bring actions against their debtors , a
natural obligation nevertheless exists in both cases which creates a legal
relationship. While there may be no Hohfeldian claim right in either case, both
cases involved Hohfeldian privileges as both creditors would be immune to
recovery of any sums paid on the basis of unjust enrichment even if they could
not bring an action to recover said sums.
This leaves the
difficult case of Attorney-General of Hong Kong v Nai-Keung, in which export
quotas for textiles were held by the Privy Council to be other intangible
property under the Hong Kong Theft Ordinance 1970. According to D Aloia, the
quotas similarly entailed no rights but merely an expectation that a
corresponding licence would be granted. But surely a mere expectation would not
suffice otherwise spes successionis would also be property. What distinguishes
the export quotas in Nai-Keung from mere spes are public law rights conferred
upon holders of the former to challenge any wrongful denial of licences. These
are, without doubt, a form of Hohfeldian relation."
A preprint of
the case comment is available on SSRN: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5033278.
Kelvin
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Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2025 7:33:51 PM
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Subject: [RDG] Recent cases
Some
interesting effects of the decision in Byers can be seen in Humphrey
v Bennett [2025] EWHC 448 (Ch), a
long-running saga. This episode concerns some contentious amendments to the
pleadings. There is some interesting discussion of s 29 of the LRA 2002, of
want of authority as a ground of unjust enrichment liability, and of pleading
issues. Since it is all about amendments, though, nothing is really resolved as
a matter of law
On the
crypto front, the lengthy judgment in D Aloia v Persons Unknown [2024] EWHC 2342 (Ch); [2025]
1 WLR 821 may be of interest. This jumped out at me personally:
[5] USDT attract property rights under English law.
It is neither a chose in action nor a chose in possession, but rather a
distinct form of property not premised on an underlying legal right. It can be
the subject of tracing and can constitute trust property in the same way as
other property.
The
discussion of the nature of property ([104]-[173]) includes some interesting
cases and a great deal of academic commentary, and concludes in part ([173]):
I have concluded that: as a matter of existing English case law an expectation
can suffice for the foundation of property rights even in the absence of a
legal relationship
Lionel
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